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Will someone please tell me what information is in the jacket of an old Ft. Smith, Ark. Criminal record?
I'm still looking for my family in Oklahoma, and there are several persons in those records with the same last name. Thanks, Martha Fanning. |
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The information varies. Some files simply contain a summons. Others contain the hand written transcriptions of testimony, warrants, sentencing and transportation to a specific prison, grocery lists and just about everything else specific to the case.
In terms of searching for relatives, if you're lucky, you'll find referenced to where the individual arrested lived and possibly a reference to some of his kin. You will not find date of birth or death unless your relative was the victim. |
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My many thanks for your answer.
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I have another record question, please.
I now have the Ft. Smith record of a John Newcomb, (1870)who I think was an Indian, but how do I know where to find the actual trial records? Is the record in Van Buren, Arkansas? Thank you, Martha |
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Your best bet is to contact the archieve folks at Fort Worth, Texas. That's where all the Ft. Smith Records are held. If they don't have them they can direct you to the right facility.
But, sometimes, the only record may be the original warrant and/or correspondence concerning it. As I said earlier, content varries. Fort Worth also has on microfilm the court dockets. It's tedious work, but you can trace the progress of the individual through the court system and often find gems of information. |
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Thanks once again, Tower!
I'll go back to the archieve folks at Ft. Worth, Tx. & see what else, if anything I can find. |
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One more question, if I may, Tower.
The record says, "John Newcomb did on or about sixteenth day of July A.D. 1870 in the Western District of Arkansas, and Indian County (or Indian Country...hard to make out, wilfully and feloniously and with alice aforthought kill and murder Charles Coker (I think it's Coker.) a white man and not an Indian by birth, marriage or adoption..." I surmise John Newcomb is/was an Indian. Do you think that is the case? Thanks, Martha. |
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Left the m off of malice, and didn't get the ) after "hard to make out"...
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I'm not Tower and definitley not an expert, but maybe the note about the victim "not" being Indian is related to the conflict over whether the Fort Smith court had jurisdiction over Indian crimes against Indians on Indian land. If so, it would not necessarily mean Newcomb was Indian.
Just a wild guess. You could of course check the Newcomb name against the Indian rolls. |
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Thanks Playwright.
I don't see a John Newcomb on the Final Roll, but I do know that a John W. Newcomb, Stockbridge (on the Kansas Reserve) had a son named John. That John W.'s grandson, Thomas is on the Final Roll. I'm thinking this may be John W.'s son. Maybe I need to go look at who was hung at Ft. Smith. Thank you! |
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Oh, I see what you're saying. I think you're right. Thanks, again.
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Like Playwright said, the statement re: Indian heritage is standard language because the Supreme Court limited the District Court's jurisdiction to crimes wherein one of the parties, either victim or perp, had to be a U. S. citizen. Indian Nations, the Five Tribes, had their own courts and laws applicable to tribal citizens and if both parties were Indian, the Indian court had jurisdiction. This lead to a lot of confusion particularly as some tribes adopted their Freedmen and some did not; and because some tribes insisted white intermarrieds were citizens of the tribe and not U. S. citizens. So, the court had to make a decision and the Prosecuting Attorney often included such a statement on the prayer for a warrent and in the formal charge. Like the little boy and the skunk, you get familar with something and you learn a whole lot more than you cared to.
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Thanks, Tower.
Coker was white, so Newcomb could of been either white or Indian, but either way, because Coker (one of the party) was white it went to Ft. Smith? |
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I found many Cokers on the Cherokee roll, then I ran across this book: http://www.colonelmonks.com/ I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I found this in it. Indians Chase a Sheriff Ten Miles. Now the author will relate another incident that oc curred in Marion count}^, Arkansas, in the early settling of this country. There was a large relation of the Coker family who lived in that county. One of the Cokers raised two families, one by a white woman and the other by an Indian woman. The Indian family, after they had grown up and become men, resided a part of the time in the Na tion, where the mother lived, and a part of the time they remained in Marion county where their father and Bother relatives lived. They were very dangerous men when drinking, and the whole country feared them. The}^ had been in different troubles, and had killed three or four men, and if the authorities attempted to arrest them, they defied them, and would go to the Nation and remain awhile. There was a deputy sheriff in the county by the name of Stinnett, who claimed to be very brave, who said AND NORTHERN ARKANSAS 27 he would arrest them if he found their whereabouts. The Cokers learned what Stinnett had said, and that the war rant for their arrest was in his possession, so they got some good tow strings and vowed that whenever they met him they would arrest him and take him to Yellville and put him in jail. A short time afterwards they met him in the public road. As soon as Stinnett recognized them, and having heard of the threats they had made, he wheeled his horse and put spurs to him. They drew their revolvers and put spurs to their horses in pursuit, com manding him to halt. But Stinnett spurred his horse the harder. They pursued him a distance of about ten miles; but Stinnett s horse proved to be the best, and he made his escape. They again returned to the Nation. The good people, generally, of the county were terror ized and afraid to raise their voices against them, and it became a question as to whether they had a man in the county who had the courage to attempt their arrest. They made it a question in the next election, to elect a man that would make the arrest, if such a man could be found in the county. There was a man living in the county by the name of Brown, who was a cousin of the Cokers, and he told the people that if they would elect him, he would ar rest them or they would kill him. He was elected by a large majority, and, after he had qualified, took charge of the office. The first time the Cokers came into the settle ment, he summoned two men, thought to be brave, who pledged themselves that if it became necessary they would die for him. He then went to the house of one of the Coker family where the Cokers were staying, and on his arrival found the two Coker brothers sitting in chairs in the yard. He was within some thirty feet of them before they saw him. Their guns were sitting near them, and they seized them; but before they could present them 28 HISTORY OF SOUTHERN MISSOURI Brown had his revolver cocked and leveled at one of their heads, and told him not to attempt to raise his gun or he would kill him. Coker turned his back to him with his gun on his shoulder, secretly cocked it, and leveled it upon Brown as near as possible without taking it from his shoul der and fired, missing his aim. About the same time Brown discharged his revolver at Coker and made a slight scalp wound. The other Coker threw his gun upon Brown and fired, killing him instantly. The two men who were acting as a posse for the sheriff turned and fled, leaving Brown lying dead on the ground. After the shooting the Cokers fled to the Nation and remained there. The author will now relate another incident that oc curred in the same county. For years the Cokers and Ho- gans had been intimate friends, and drank, gambled, and horseraced together a great deal. There came up a troub le between Coker and one of his brothers-in-law, and one evening Coker, in company with Hogan, went to the house of this brother-in-law. Both had been drinking. Coker swore that he would ride onto the porch of his brother -in law, and made the attempt. His brother-in-law caught the horse by the bridle and warned him not to ride onto porch, and that if he did he would kill him. Coker drew his revolver, spurred his horse, but as he entered the porch his brother-in-law shot him dead. Coker being a cousin of the Indian Cokers, they charged Hogan with inducing him, while drinking, to go to his brother-in-law s house, so as to give him a chance to kill him, and that Hogan s life should pay the penalty. Shortly afterwards Hogan was traveling on an old trail that led along the bluff of White river. The river here made a bend in horseshoe shape, following the bluff all around. The Cokers learned that Hogan was going to pass through this gap, and they lay in wait for him, cutting off all avenues of escape possi- AND NORTHERN ARKANSAS 29 ble so he would be forced into the horseshoe for his escape. When he came in sight they raised the Indian warwhoop, and drew their revolvers. Hogan looked around and saw that his pursuers were in about a hundred yards of him. He saw his predicament, as for a quarter of a mile he con fronted the bluff, and that there was only one avenue of escape. He went to the edge of the precipice and looked over. There, under the bluff, lay the deep, blue waters of White river, 150 feet below. Again he turned his eyes toward his pursuers. He knew it meant death if they caught him; so he made the fearful leap over the bluff, striking the water where it was about twenty-five feet deep. Hogan was a wicked man and cursed a great deal. He swore it didn t take him long to reach the water, but that he thought considerable time intervened from the time he struck the water until he reached the top again. He swam to the bank which was but a few feet distant. His pursu ers came to the precipice, looked over, and said that they had made Hogan do something they had intended to do, and that was, to take his own life, as they supposed no hu man being could make the leap and live. After cutting his saddle and bridle to pieces, they turned his horse loose, and reported that Hogan was killed. Hogan traveled around under the bluff for about two miles, made his way home, wound up his business, sold his farm, and moved into Fulton county, Arkansas, which ended the trouble be tween them. |
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