I just remembered something of interest. My Grandmother, who was a close relative of Belle's, claimed to be the last surviving family member who knew the location of Belle's cave hideout where some stolen cash and gold where left, and never recovered. This was supposed to be in SE Ok. somewhere and my Grandmother took that secret to her grave about 5 years ago, just as she promised her mother she would. Is this all just a fairy tale or does her story have some basis in fact?
Posts: 3 | Location: Meadville Pa | Registered: Wed February 18 2004
Hi...Mr Marshall, I just read your last post. I've been to Belle Starr's hideout, when I was a little girl. I don't remember where it was...but it's a tourist attraction. I do remember in the cave there was a tiny wee cave over to the right. It was like a bunkbed. The guy said that being as she was the only female in her "gang", she slept there. And, the men slept in the main area. I'm sure if you look it up on the internet, it's there. We lived in Tulsa, Ok, at the time, and it seems to me, it was a long, long way (course, I was just a wee girl, about 7). So, yes, her story is factual...however, someone else spilt the beans and your Gran kept her secret!!!! Charmaine charmaine@therussellsonline.co.uk Short/Williams/Mathney
Charles Mooney wrote two books about his Father, Jesse Mooney who was an Indian Territory/Oklahoma Territory physician who once treated Belle Starr and was familiar with her and many of her aquaintances. They are both out of print, but I found them years ago in a used bookstore. They are:
"Doctor in Belle Starr Country," and "Doctor Jesse."
Keep up the good fight, pass the word, and teach others to fight back when unjustly assaulted--be it on the street or in the courtroom. Self-defense is a normal, moral act. So teach your family, friends, and students practical defense against both physical and legal marauders." -----Jerry VanCook
Posts: 10 | Location: Independence, MO USA | Registered: Tue January 06 2004
just remembered something of interest. My Grandmother, who was a close relative of Belle's, claimed to be the last surviving family member who knew the location of Belle's cave hideout where some stolen cash and gold where left, and never recovered. This was supposed to be in SE Ok. somewhere and my Grandmother took that secret to her grave about 5 years ago, just as she promised her mother she would. Is this all just a fairy tale or does her story have some basis in fact?
In response to S.R. Marshall's post regarding Belle Starr's hiding place. This might be Robbers cave as it was also dynamited in the 1920's while looking for a cache of gold. Belle and the Youngers used this for a waylay point to rob, and hide. This is a state park operated by the state of Oklahoma. Kevin Kolofk kkoloff@aol.com
just remembered something of interest. My Grandmother, who was a close relative of Belle's, claimed to be the last surviving family member who knew the location of Belle's cave hideout where some stolen cash and gold where left, and never recovered. This was supposed to be in SE Ok. somewhere and my Grandmo
Posts: 5 | Location: tulsa, ok. usa | Registered: Sat January 31 2004
I just posted a story that is very intrusting reading it will tell you where the cave that you are calling belle Starr cave it is really the Sam Starr cave being he owned the property and belle Starr only fenced there stoling property for the gangs that hung out and hid out around the place like Jesse James and younger and all the Starr boys she woos never Sean stilling any thing she woos charged but only convicted one time and her and Sam her husband spent about a year in jail they got out and resumed there beanies